Farming Money/Exp/IV Stones/Heart Scales/etc

This guide lists the most efficient ways to quickly gain money, experience, IV Stones, Heart Scales, Dream Mists, etc.

General tip: you don’t have to buy any of the secret base workers because you can use the workers in someone else’s base. Go to the back of your Secret Base and connect to the base of “Lesss” - this base has all the workers. However, if you’re going to use the workers frequently and you can afford to purchase your own, it’s recommended you do so because using your own workers is faster than going to somebody else’s base.

Money Farming

These methods are listed in order from fastest to slowest. Method 4 (Pokepon) is something that can be done in the background which takes almost no time to do, so you are encouraged to do it regularly during your playthrough.

Money Farming Method 1: DexNav

Requirement: Have a Pokemon that is immune to Electric attacks / be able to beat a Level 40 Choice Band Electrode

Optional, but highly recommended steps:

  1. Buy an Amulet Coin at the Helios Department Store (top floor, right cashier). It only costs 100 Pokedollars. Equip it to the Pokemon you’re going to use to fight.
  2. The man on the left side of the first room in Utira Library teaches Happy Hour, which doubles money. One option is Inkay (found in the secret base of “Halon”), which can also be used to farm Heart Scales.

Open the DexNav (default: D key or just by opening the menu) and click on the Pokeball icon on the right. You can fight these trainers as much as you want. The following trainers are recommended; they only have one Pokemon.

  1. Gentleman Dun: Has a Level 50 Dunsparce with Serene Grace that will try to paraflinch you. Gives 3600 Pokedollars per fight (7200 with Amulet Coin, 14400 with Happy Hour).

  2. Elder Clint Eastwood: Has a Level 40 Choice Band Electrode that only knows Explosion and Electric moves. Gives 2400 Pokedollars per fight (4800 with Amulet Coin, 9600 with Happy Hour).

Clint Eastwood can be beaten at the very beginning of the game. Open the “Gaining Experience Quickly” → “Early Game Experience Grinding Method” section to see how.


Money Farming Method 2: Sonata Tracks

Requirement: reach Sonata City

  1. Go to the Sonata Tracks, located in the south of Sonata City. Enter the race and always choose the Ice Path. The opposing CPUs are so bad here that it’s very easy to win.
Ice Path Technique
  1. Go just right of the boulder and use the boost path immediately ahead.
  2. When you hit the block go right and then go up until you’re off the ice and on an elevated area.
  3. After going down the slope, take the right staircase, go all the way to the right, and go up until you hit a rock.
  4. Go to the left and then go up until the finish.

This method should give you consistent 25 second races.

Note: In order to get sponsored by the best sponsor, you do not need to win all the time. If you get 2nd place every time, you will have enough points.

  1. After you play the first race, talk to the lady on the right, and get sponsored by the Kricketune Knockoffs.

  2. Play 2 more races, then talk to the lady on the right again. Collect your rewards. Then, talk to her again and get sponsored by the Chespin Cheaps.

  3. Repeat the previous steps of playing races, collecting your reward and regularly upgrading sponsors.

See the Wiki page for sponsorship information: Sonata Tracks - The Pokemon Insurgence Wiki. Pay attention to the “Min. Races” column, because that’s how many races you need before you can be sponsored by that company.

You want to regularly upgrade your sponsor, because if you have a better sponsor, you get more money per race. Some of the sponsors offer item rewards that you might want, but if you just want money as quickly as possible, then choose the sponsor with the highest money multiplier.

If you are sponsored by the Devon Corp (the best sponsor), you will win 11250 Pokedollars per race, and each race takes a minute or less. It’s more than this though because you’ll often get various balls as prizes from the races, which can also be sold for money, plus there is around a 1/213 chance of getting a Master Ball.


Money Farming Method 3: Rock Smash

Requirement: have a damage-dealing Fighting-type move (Custom Move doesn’t count) in your party

Repeatedly smashing rocks will give you items, such as fossils, that you can sell for money. Midna Mine is a good place to smash rocks quickly, allowing you to farm money even if you’re at the beginning of the game.

The best places to smash rocks is the group of rocks in Koril Town (enter the nearby house to respawn the rocks), but if you’re at this point in the game, your team should be strong enough to utilize the DexNav money farming method, which is a faster method than smashing rocks. However, you still may want to smash rocks as you can get IV Stones and Heart Scales, for instance.


Money Farming Method 4: Pokepon

Requirement: reach Sonata City

Go to Sonata City. The Pokepon machine is in the top right corner of the city.

WARNING: It is possible that the Pokepon machine will change your Pokemon’s nature to a random nature. Therefore, before talking to the lady in front of the machine, make sure the first Pokemon in your party is one that you wouldn’t mind if it randomly got its nature changed.

The Pokepon machine will often give you an item that you can sell for money. To be able to play Poképon again the player must wait 20 minutes and run a random amount of steps, with a maximum of 1500 steps.

This method won’t get you money quickly (unless you get lucky and get a Big Nugget), but you are encouraged to repeatedly visit Pokepon during your journey to give yourself more chances at pulling good prizes.


Gaining Experience Quickly

Requirement: beat Nora in Metchi Town

Purchase your Secret Base at the east side of Metchi Town.

Optional, but recommended: in Koril Town, grab a Lucky Egg from a Loudred in one of the houses on the west side of town.

Purchase the Level Trainer for your secret base (or you can go to the base of “Lesss” but that’s slower). The Level Trainer can be used infinitely. See the money farming section of this guide if you need more money.

Early Game Experience Grinding Method

Here is a method you can use at the very beginning of the game, if you don’t have access to the Secret Base yet.

  1. Catch a Pokemon that is immune to Electric moves (there are Ground types in Telnor Cave, for instance).
  2. Open the DexNav (default: D key or just by opening the menu), click on the Pokeball icon, and fight Elder Clint Eastwood. He has only one Pokemon, which is a Level 40 Choice Band Electrode that only knows Explosion and Electric moves.
  3. On Turn 1, switch to your Electric immunity. Electrode won’t be able to damage you, and you will gain tons of experience.

This process can be repeated infinitely.


Increasing Friendship/Happiness Quickly

Requirement: reach Helios City

Go to the Helios Department Store. On the top floor, you can purchase a Soothe Bell from the middle cashier for only 200 Pokedollars. On the third floor, the cashier on the right sells EV-reducing berries that also increase Friendship. You can use these berries even if your Pokemon has 0 EVs in the stat that the berry reduces. On average, it takes a couple dozen to maximize a Pokemon’s friendship, but each berry only costs 20 Pokedollars.


IV Stone Farming

Here is the Wiki page which lists IV Stone locations: IV Stone - The Pokemon Insurgence Wiki

These methods are listed in order from fastest to slowest. Method 4 (Pokepon) is something that can be done in the background which takes almost no time to do, so you are encouraged to do it regularly during your playthrough.

IV Stone Farming Method 1: Battle Frontier

(This is by far the fastest method.)

Requirement: obtain the Hiking Boots (which you won’t obtain until after beating the Elite 4)

In the Battle Frontier, play either the Battle Tower or the Challenge Championship (the Battle Tower has easier battles, but you get IV Stones faster in the Challenge Championship, and there’s a special prize you can work towards in the Challenge Championship). If you keep winning, you’ll get Rare Candies, Dream Mists, and IV Stones as prizes.

You can convert Rare Candies and Dream Mists into IV stones by going to the Lighthouse in Selene City. The chef La Feu will make you an IV Stone in exchange for 3 Rare Candies and 1 Dream Mist.


IV Stone Farming Method 2: Rock Smash

Requirement: have a damage-dealing Fighting-type move (Custom Move doesn’t count) in your party

The best place to smash rocks quickly is the cluster of 5 rocks in Koril Town, as there is a nearby house you can enter and exit to reset the rocks. If you’re not there yet, go to Midna Mine.

Because you will get an item out of a rock 25% of the time, and if you get an item out of the rock it will be an IV Stone 3.5% of the time, on average you will find an IV Stone every ~114 rocks [114 = 1 / (25% * 3.5%)]. This method also allows you to get other useful items from smashing rocks, such as Heart Scales.


IV Stone Farming Method 3: Pickup

(This method is listed for completeness. I do not actually recommend using this method.)

Requirement: have a Pokemon that is at least Level 51 which has the ability Pickup

If the Pokemon is lower than Level 51, this method will not work because Pokemon outside that range cannot obtain IV stones via Pickup.

  1. Go to Route 13 and catch 5 Linoone that have the Pickup abiliity.

  2. Catch a Bunnelby (Route 1) that has the Pickup ability. Make sure it knows a Fighting-type move (it gets Double Kick by level-up at Level 20). Raise it to Level 51 (see the Gaining Experience Quickly section of this guide).

  3. Go to Midna Mine (because it has the lowest level Pokemon and rocks to smash). Battle and defeat the wild Pokemon. You must defeat them - you cannot run from the battles. While battling and defeating the wild Pokemon, you can also smash rocks to try to get IV stones, which is the point of catching the Bunnelby.

  4. After every battle or couple battles, check your party to see if they picked up any items. If they have, take the item from them and keep battling.

Because each Pokemon has a 10% chance of picking up an item each battle, if you get an item it will be an IV stone 1% of the time, and you have 6 Pokemon working all at once, you will, on average, get an IV Stone every 167 battles. (167 = 1 / {1 - [1 - (10% * 1%)]^6})


IV Stone Farming Method 4: Pokepon

Requirement: reach Sonata City

Assuming you are fairly diligent, on average you will get an IV stone approximately every 4 hours in real time using this method. I encourage you to read on regardless, because you can use this method to get IV stones in the background while you’re playing.

Go to Sonata City. The Pokepon machine is in the top right corner of the city.

WARNING: It is possible that the Pokepon machine will change your Pokemon’s nature to a random nature. Therefore, before talking to the lady in front of the machine, make sure the first Pokemon in your party is one that you wouldn’t mind if it randomly got its nature changed.

You have roughly a 1/12 chance of getting an IV stone each time you talk to the lady. However, Poképon has a cool-down to make players unable to farm shiny Pokémon or items too easily. To be able to play Poképon again the player must wait 20 minutes and run a random amount of steps, with a maximum of 1500 steps. So if you talk to the lady every 20 minutes, and each time you talk to her, you have the required number of steps, on average you’ll get an IV stone every 4 hours.

You are encouraged to repeatedly visit Pokepon during your journey to give yourself more chances at pulling good prizes.


Heart Scale Farming

How to get 2 quick Heart Scales (Requirement: reach Metchi Town): Go to the Secret Base of user “JESUSML” and catch a Jigglypuff (if you get stuck in a tree in the base, use the tablet to escape). Show the Jigglypuff to a girl to the southwest of the Jaern statue in Suntouched City and she’ll give you 2 Heart Scales.

How to get another 3 easy Heart Scales (Requirement: reach Metchi Town):

  1. Go to your Secret Base (purchase in Metchi Town). Go to the back, connect to the internet, and choose “go to a random base”.

  2. Find the Friend Safari in the back of the base and grab the flag. Exit the base.

  3. Repeat until you have 10 flags.

  4. Once you have 10 flags, talk to the Flag Guy (there’s one in the base of user “Lesss”, or you can buy your own) to get your Heart Scales.

The above two methods can only be done once. The below two methods can be used to farm as many Heart Scales as you like, and are listed in order from fastest to slowest. Method 3 (Pokepon) is something that can be done in the background which takes almost no time to do, so you are encouraged to do it regularly during your playthrough.

Heart Scale Farming Method 1: Rock Smash

Requirement: have a damage-dealing Fighting-type move (Custom Move doesn’t count) in your party

The best place to smash rocks quickly is the cluster of 5 rocks in Koril Town, as there is a nearby house you can enter and exit to reset the rocks. If you’re not there yet, go to Midna Mine.

Because you will get an item out of a rock 25% of the time, and if you get an item out of the rock it will be an Heart Scale 11% of the time, on average you will find a Heart Scale every ~36 rocks [36 = 1 / (25% * 11%)]. This method also allows you to get other useful items from smashing rocks, such as IV Stones.


Heart Scale Farming Method 2: Luvdisc Fishing

Requirement: obtain the Good Rod in Vipik City

  1. Get a Pokemon with a move like Trick/Switcheroo/Covet/Thief. For example, you can go to the Secret Base of user “Halon”. Catch an Inkay from the Friend Safari. Level it up to Level 23 so it learns Switcheroo.

  2. You’re going to fish for Luvdisc. The best spot is Nexa Town (40% encounter with Super Rod). If you’re not there yet, go to Deyraan Cave (up the waterfall in Deyraan Town, 30% encounter with the Old Rod). If you’re not there yet, go to Midna Mine (20% encounter with the Good Rod).

Old Rod is from a Fisherman on Route 2, Good Rod is from a boy in a house in Vipik City if you have 25 caught Pokemon, and the Super Rod is bought in the Black Market under Helios City.

  1. When you find a Luvdisc, use Switcheroo against it, and sometimes it will be holding a Heart Scale. After using Switcheroo, you can run from the battle, then take the Heart Scale from Inkay and repeat. If you’re using Thief or Covet, you need to make sure your Pokemon isn’t holding an item so it can steal the Heart Scale.

There are two optional things you can do to make Luvdisc farming very slightly more efficient. They are listed for completeness, however they are not recommended to do because they don’t make the process that much faster:

How to make the Luvdiscs be holding Heart Scales slightly more often: catch a Caterpie in Shade Forest. Evolve it into a Butterfree, which should now have the ability Compoundeyes. Make the Butterfree faint and don’t revive it. Put the Butterfree in the front of your party, and put the Inkay after it. Make sure the Inkay isn’t holding an item. (Having the Butterfree in front increases the chance you’ll get a Heart Scale, and if it’s fainted then you’ll send out the Inkay first, saving you some time.)

How to get Frisk so you know whether the Luvdisc has a Heart Scale or not: catch a Pumpkaboo on Route 7 and use it instead of Inkay. Make sure it has the ability Frisk. Use a Heart Scale to teach the Pumpkaboo Trick (I know, this variation to farm Heart Scales requires a Heart Scale, but it’s the earliest you can use the Frisk method). The Pumpkaboo’s Frisk will tell you if the Luvdisc is holding a Heart Scale. Alternatively, instead of Inkay/Pumpkaboo, you can catch a Gothorita in the Friend Safari of user “batman” (only if you have 6 badges though, otherwise the Gothorita won’t appear), then teach it Covet from the Utira Library’s move tutor, and use the Ability Capsule if needed to make its ability Frisk.


Heart Scale Farming Method 3: Pokepon

Requirement: reach Sonata City

Assuming you are fairly diligent, on average you will get a Heart Scale approximately every 4 hours in real time using this method. I encourage you to read on regardless, because you can use this method to get Heart Scales in the background while you’re playing.

Go to Sonata City. The Pokepon machine is in the top right corner of the city.

WARNING: It is possible that the Pokepon machine will change your Pokemon’s nature to a random nature. Therefore, before talking to the lady in front of the machine, make sure the first Pokemon in your party is one that you wouldn’t mind if it randomly got its nature changed.

You have roughly a 1/12 chance of getting a Heart Scale each time you talk to the lady. However, Poképon has a cool-down to make players unable to farm shiny Pokémon or items too easily. To be able to play Poképon again the player must wait 20 minutes and run a random amount of steps, with a maximum of 1500 steps. So if you talk to the lady every 20 minutes, and each time you talk to her, you have the required number of steps, on average you’ll get a Heart Scale every 4 hours.

You are encouraged to repeatedly visit Pokepon during your journey to give yourself more chances at pulling good prizes.


Dream Mist Farming

Here is the Wiki page which lists Dream Mist locations: Dream Mist - The Pokemon Insurgence Wiki

Requirement: obtain the Hiking Boots (which you won’t obtain until after beating the Elite 4).

Compete in the Challenge Championship in the Battle Frontier. You’ll win a Dream Mist after each win. If the Challenge Championship is too difficult, play the Battle Tower instead, though you’ll win Dream Mists more slowly.

You can also find Dream Mist on wild Munna/Musharna, but it’s only 5%. You need Hiking Boots to even use Dream Mist, but by having the Hiking Boots, you’ll have access to the faster method listed above.

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A few corrections:

Frisk is Sentret’s Hidden Ability, meaning it is not possible to change its ability to Frisk using an Ability Capsule.

On the subject of Frisk, I don’t believe the game gives you a message if the opposing wild Pokemon has Frisk so it may be worth noting that just because no message appears, doesn’t mean that the Sentret in question doesn’t have Frisk.

Friend Safari Pokemon do not hold items, so farming Luvdisc there is a waste of time.

2 additional easy to obtain Heart Scales can be obtained in Suntouched City by showing a girl southwest of the statue of Jaern a Jigglypuff.

It may also be worth noting that a second Lucky Egg can be obtained from a Whismur in Hekate Town.

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Thanks for the response.

Can anyone confirm whether Frisk gives you a message or not? If not, then there’s no point in even hunting down a Pokemon with Frisk, correct?

I’ll check but from the last time I tried it, the message only doesn’t appear when it’s the wild Pokemon that has Frisk. If your Pokemon has Frisk the message still appears.

And I’m confirming that it still works the same way. If the wild Pokemon has Frisk, it does not give a message about your Pokemon holding an item (tested using a Gardevoir with Trace holding a Lucky Egg). If your Pokemon has Frisk, the message appears if a wild Pokemon is holding an item (tested using a Trevenant with Frisk on a wild Parasect holding a TinyMushroom).

With that said, finding wild Pokemon with Frisk (and other abilities) should be done using a Trace user. I believe Abra is the earliest that can have Trace but Ralts and Kirlia are a bit more consistent since they have a higher total chance of being found and also have higher chances of not Teleporting immediately if they aren’t caught in the first turn. But for people that are further than this, Friend Safaris or getting Abra from the Game Corner are more consistent.

One minor correction/addition: HelixSlash’s Aegislash’s last move is Shadow Sneak.

Overall a great guide and I hope to utilize it much more in the future once I get access to the future benefits (Sonata Tracks, etc.).

Edit: It’s also holding a Weakness Policy.

You can get Dream Mists from the Cortisol Road Grotto near a gentleman iirc. It resets every 12 hours, just soft reset until you get a Dream Mist. Not a way to “farm” Dream Mists per se, but you still get Dream Mists so why not.

Also one of the best places to farm IV stones is Helios Sewers because it’s near an exit so it doesn’t take much time to reset the rock and also I don’t think there are any wild pokemon encounters in the rock smash room.

well you actually can change it but only in post game

I am well aware that the Dream Guru exists. The existence of the Dream Guru, however, is completely irrelevant here as the post that I made 9 months ago was to inform the original poster that they had erroneously stated that Sentret’s ability can be changed to Frisk with an Ability Capsule, which is certainly not the case as it requires a Dream Mist.

Made lots of improvements to this guide, including adding Pokepon to several section, reorganization and sorting by effectiveness, modifying the Heart Scale Luvdisc Fishing method to be doable by Vipik City rather than Selene City. I think this guide should be pretty much finished unless there’s somehow a better farming method I’ve missed, but I don’t think there is.

Made more improvements. Reorganized the guide to list all methods in order from fastest to slowest. Added the requirement to perform each method at the top. And, I’m not sure how I didn’t include this method until now, but I added the Rock Smash money farming method, which can be used even at the beginning of the game, unlike the other 3. I was going to say I now feel good about this guide being complete, but I said that last time and look what happened :slight_smile:

With the release of 1.2.5, there is a new money farming method! I added this to the guide. I placed it into the guide at #3 to preserve the order of having the methods being in order from best to worst. And thanks to all of the devs for their work on getting 1.2.5 completed and released!

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Actually, in game, it shows. I used it when I was farming Pickup Pumpkaboo. It would give me a message when the opposing Pumpkaboo had Frisk.

Yes. It does this now because I fixed it in the patch that was released well after I made that post.

K, thx. I find it cool that you actually take time to respond to posts like this.

Hi! I’m new here, but I wanted to contribute my easy pre-Sonata City money method. I found this thread by researching IV Stone farming methods. I think some folks might find this useful, maybe…?

Requirements: Old Rod, given by a Fisherman in Route 2.

  1. When you reach Crossroads, catch a Kecleon. It will know Thief. If it doesn’t, catch a Ditto too, breed a Kecleon, and train him up until level 25 or something, or use a Heart Scale. Mightyena is also an option, but it doesn’t learn Thief until level 57 so you might as well go the DexNav method.

  2. Go to Suntouched Exitway. Start fishing with the Old Rod.

  3. Use Thief on every Shellder that bites, run away right after. Shellder rate is 70%, so you’ll see them frequently. 50% he’ll be holding a Pearl, which sells for $700, and occasionally a Big Pearl, which goes for $3200. A message will pop up when you actually stole something. Remove Pearl from Kecleon.

  4. When you run out of PP go back to the Pokemon Center to heal and sell your Pearls.

  5. Repeat 1-4 until necessary. EDIT: Some quick math. I’d usually get somewhere in between 12 to 16 Pearls and 1 to 3 Big Pearls per fishing trip, which is consistent with the 50% and 70% rates mentioned above. Thief’s default PP is 25. This nets you an average of 13000 coins or so for every 32 to 35 wild encounters.

This was enough to tide me over until I got to Sonata City :slight_smile: I wouldn’t spend too much time
Pearl fishing, just enough to get your Secret Base set with the minimum and the backpack stocked with essentials.

Kecleon can be used to farm Heart Scales from Luvdisc as well. Earliest Luvdisc spot is Midna Cave with the Old Rod, 20% rate. Most frequent Luvdisc rate is Nexa Border with Super Rod, 40%. Luvdisc have a 50% chance of carrying a Heart Scale.

Making the same math as before: Midna Cave spot rate is approx. 12-17 Heart Scales for every 125 wild encounters. Nexa Border rate is approx. 12-17 Heart Scales for every 65 wild encounters.

Also EDIT, two side notes:

  • Devon Corp as a Sonata Races sponsor gives out a LOT of Pokeballs: Most of the time I get an Ultra Ball, a Dusk Ball, and a Timer or Quick Ball or Great Ball alongside my money. Considering these balls are usually like $1000 a piece, and you can never have enough of them, you gotta factor the money you’ll save in your winnings from the races. The tiny tiny chance of getting a Master Ball is also tantalizing.

  • Rock Smashing is not the most efficient way to farm Heart Scales, BUT if you’re trying to obtain IV Stones, you’ll get some too. I got about 25 Heart Scales to my 8 IV Stones (so far). So I’d wait until you got your fill of IV Stones to go Luvdisc fishing, if you were planning to do both.

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Thank you for the thorough reply. Your two side notes are good points and I’ve added quick notes about them to the main post.

And thank you for that Shellder Pearl method. Posting new methods is also appreciated. Unfortunately however, I just happened to update the guide with a faster pre-Sonata City money farming method, and then afterwards I saw your post. It’s regarding Elder Clint Eastwood in the Dexnav, and due to his Pokemon’s set and the AI, you can beat his team (and get $2400 per battle) before you even get to Midna Town. Again, new ideas are always appreciated and thank you for the post.

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Hey, thank you for the guide! I just want to add my method of dream mist farming before I had a team that could win in the frontier (I also used this right after reaching the dream realm for the first time, in order to turn the dream mists into IV stones, but this is probably not very efficient.)

  1. Find a joltik (they are only found in murk forest). Make sure it has the ability compound eyes! (note, joltik is the best choice because post-game, you can teach it thief with the tm in the holon grasslands!)
  2. Teach a pokemon covet using the lady in the utira library (a pokemon that knows the ability frisk is the best choice, of course, but you can settle for any pokemon.)
  3. go to Cortisol Road, in the dream realm, and faint your joltik against the first pokemon you find.
  4. with the joltik still in slot 1 in your party and the pokemon with covet in slot 2, hunt for musharna (45% chance to appear) and hit each one with covet (or if using a pokemon with frisk, just keep an eye out for the notification and use covet when you see that it is holding a dream mist.)
  5. When you get one, make sure to take it from your pokemon before continuing.

Note: Normally, musharna has a 5% chance of holding a dream mist. Theoretically with a compound eyes pokemon in the front of your party it should be boosted to 20%, however either I had really bad RNG or it wasn’t working for me. It seems to have increased the chances of clefairy holding a moon stone/berry like it should have however, so it’s possible there is a system in place that prevents the compound eyes ability from affecting dream mists… or I could just be really unlucky. Regardless, I was finding somewhere between 2-5 dream mists an hour using this method.

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pretty sure compound lens doesnt work with dream mists

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You’re probably right, hence my note at the end xD however it is still good to have the compound eyes joltik ready to learn thief for any of your item hunting needs.

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